"Increase frequency of trains on North-East Line"

last SG · 2007-11-17T17:04:57+00:00

Its a NEL thing I'm curious to know if NEL even has enough trains to run at intervals of 1.5-2 mins during off-peak... Their ratio of 25 trains to 15 statio...

tintinspartan SG

Terrible! I was onboard a NSL train at Jurong East. When the Boon LAy bound train arrived, the driver shut the doors and leave without picking up the passengers arriving at Westbound side.

Same Case happen to CGL. The train to Changi left the station without picking up passengers from the East Bound Platform.

^tamago^ SG

Originally posted by Oceane:
My thoughts: How short do you want? Is waiting for a train longer than waiting for a bus? Rolling Eyes

Is this the standard MRT operators strive to be if they want to be the backbone of public transport? If not then please bring back those express buses along NSL!

#2:
The MRT CEO does not take the MRT, just like the NTUC-DELGRO CEO does not take taxis. How could they really appreciate the problems with their business? As with a lot of CEOs in Singapore, they have risen to the level of inefficiency!

My thoughts: This guy is talking rubbish. Laughing

I think it's fair and legitimate.

#3:

North East line is always empty except during the peak hours. How will they make profit if they increase the frequency of the trains?

My thoughts: Good, at least there is one appreciative commuter here. Razz Razz

NEL is no longer empty nowadays. Can't they afford to put in a few more peak hour runs?

#4:It is always about MONEY,
never about SERVICE.

Live with it.

My thoughts: Since you don't like SERVICE, then go buy your own car! Why are you barking like a mad dog here?

Public transport is no longer public anymore, because the public who uses it does not have a say anymore. Since the companies are privitised, I think they might as well end up being just another form of 'private transport'.

^tamago^ SG

Actually, it is not about auto or manual. (Of cos SMRT only allowed 1½-min if it's auto cos they trust computers to do the job.)

The 1½-minute came about due to the ATP. Any faster, and you're too close to the next train. Sad

I have not taken any photos of rush hour in Tokyo previously (I did take trains to elsewhere and I'll just say, express train runs really make a difference), so maybe the next time I go I will have to. Laughing

Oceane SG

So if it's manual the train can come nose to nose? Laughing

I wonder what will happen if the computer fails...

^tamago^ SG

cannot. u noe coded manual right? ATP works regardless of AM or CM. Laughing

if computer fails either the whole system paralyse or you can proceed at RM (

Oceane SG

Hope they got back-up... if not one day this thing really happens then people will start complaining again. Rolling Eyes

DMC05 SG

Of course they will have back ups. The companies always try to right the wrongs to minimise disruptions. Disruptions mean profit losses. Maybe what the commuters here need is for a string of breakdowns to happen so when it happens again they won’t complain at all.

^tamago^ SG

can't la. it's like if a section of the tracks fail or gets cut off, no trains can pass through. Sad

sbst275 SG

I ever waited for 5 mins at 0730 weekdays bef Laughing

stellazio SG

how can trains have a 6min frequency during peak hours?

hisoka SG

actually EWL at least from pasir ris to boonlay, the frequency during peak is more like 3-4 mins. not 1-2, this is from experience taking the trains....

eagle SG

Ask that to NEL

To Oceane:
Regarding whether the system will fail, all I can say that when it fails, the whole system will be down. A good real-time system will have taken into account all sorts of possible problems.

If you say that the system might not be good enough, then SBS should further improve it. Yet if it is good enough, SBS could do better to improve the service and frequency. Either way, they still have lots to improve.

Talking about computer systems, SBS doesn't seem to trust it enough. It doesn't seem to be any more efficient; 1 staff is still required in every single train. Isn't that the same as SMRT, where 1 driver is required in every train?

eagle SG

I've seen 2 mins intervals before, when I take from Outram Park to Clementi.

Oceane SG

There are no turnaround stops for the whole of EWL as far as I know so the trains just run full, therefore peak frequencies there are on an average of 3 to 3.5 minutes.

Oceane SG

I don't really quite see NEL staff on NEL trains when I take them... most usually they could be utilising the NEL to go home after a day's work? Rolling Eyes

teraexa SG

no they are definitely not going home if they are still using a walkie-talkie on the train?

and yea, each train nvr fail to have one of those 'little green men' on board.

^tamago^ SG

Yes. The improvement I see here is that EWL now have 3-4mins at 7am (previously 5-6½mins). 1-2mins usually occurs after 8am as more trains come in.

1-2mins is more common along NSL.

tintinspartan SG

Eh... Can I add-on:

The NSL 1-2 min freq only applies to the MRB to YIS Sector, WDL got 5-7 min freq for the trains. EWL has demand at Aljuned, Boon Lay, Clementi, Buona Vista, Commonwealth, City Hall, Raffles Place, Tanjung Pagar, Bedok and Tanah Merah. Tanah MErah is added beacuse the demand was transported from Expo station.

Off Topic: Could SBST intro some new services at Changi Industrial Estate?

TIB1224Y SG

Haha the ATP can be a life saver... (say, Clementi accident in 1993?)
Or maybe a pain in the ass... Well I wouldn't agree to the latter, but some of my friends would say 'heck' to safety, its up to their 'ass' to cover when an accident happens...

^tamago^ SG

today got 1-2 mins on EWL before 8am in town, apparently due to train bunching. Laughing

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